';And he said to them, 'I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power.'';
So essentially, Jesus was saying that the world would end before they died. It didn't.Doesn't Mark 9:1 prove Jesus was a false prophet?
It's a very good question, and one that should be approached using reason.
First, if this verse had not come true then Christians would have a) hidden it and not have included it in their gospel account of Jesus or b) not have become Christians in the first place since Jesus words would have been understood as unworthy to believe in and therefore it is unlikely we would have had a gospel account to read, let alone be discussing right now.
But since it is in their Bible and we are discussing it, then obviously it has some fulfillment or meaning that is obviously not immediately discerned.
Mainstream theology teaches two main schools of thought that interpret this text: 1) that Jesus may have been alluding to the spread of the Church, being that its establishment was seen by Christians as evidence that God's Kingdom was in fact ruling over earth's affairs and doing so by the hands of these very apostles that heard Jesus' words at Mark 9:1 and/or 2) Jesus was in fact referring to his glorious manifestation that would occur at the end of the world, a glimpse of which was given to Peter, James, and John ('some that were standing there') by means of the Transfiguration mentioned in the verses immediately following Mark 9:1.Doesn't Mark 9:1 prove Jesus was a false prophet?
Define the ';Kingdom of god';; most ppl think that the book of revelations has something to do with that. I think that the book of revelations is utter bollux and doesn't belong in the bible. If he was talking about the christian religion; then, yesm that did come before his disciples died.
Not a 'false' prophet, but the same type of prophet as all the others who have predicted the end of the world and offered a way, through himself of course, to not die, to not be a part of the masses, to not face the one thing we all fear together, death... and then of course nothing happened except for the creation of a new cult that is now one of the largest religions in the world. Remember of course that the bible is fiction and anything quoted out of it is like trying to make a serious argument and base Star Wars quotes as your reasons for being correct...
Hi, I'm not a bible teacher but from the source that I've provided below , a bible teacher(Harold Camping is his name) answers the question.He says that the answer is in Mark 9:2 , in the source you can view a video or listen to the audio commentary regarding your question.
Mark 9
1And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
Jesus didn't say anything about the end of the world in that sentence. Unless you are meaning the end of an age.
';Seeing the kingdom of God come with power..';
';Seeing'; in that context refers to revelation.
John the last and longest living disciple and apostle was given the Revelation while on the Isle of Patmos. That revelation showed the fullness of the kingdom of God come. The Messianic Millennium.
John died after that revelation. The Messianic Millennium is yet to come.
Fables of impossible characters. Let's see the faith healing today or better yet, grow an amputated arm. See them get bit by a cobra and drink a gallon of bleach without medical care. The bible says true believers can drink poison and be bit by poisonous snakes and not die. I'm just asking to see the test. Jesus has been argued for over two thousand years, way long enough for xtians to prove their point. They change the meaning of end time prophecy every fifteen years or so. OT books were written after the return from Babylon so the prophecies of the OT were written after the fact. You see the same thing today, when someone dies a 'psychic' claims she foretold it but no one ever heard her mention it until after it happened. Same thing with xtian prophecy, it is always being back-filled, make it up as you go.
JESUS has come into the parts of Caesarea Philippi, and he is teaching a crowd that includes his apostles. He makes this startling announcement to them: “Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here that will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.”
‘What could Jesus mean?’ the disciples must wonder. About a week later, Jesus takes Peter, James, and John along with him, and they climb a lofty mountain. Possibly it is at night, since the disciples are sleepy. While Jesus is praying, he is transfigured before them. His face begins to shine as the sun, and his garments become brilliant as light.
Then, two figures, identified as “Moses and Elijah,” appear and start talking to Jesus about his ‘departure that is to occur at Jerusalem.’ The departure evidently refers to Jesus’ death and subsequent resurrection. Thus, this conversation proves that his humiliating death is not something to be avoided, as Peter had desired.
Fully awake now, the disciples watch and listen with amazement. Although this is a vision, it appears so real that Peter begins to participate in the scene, saying: “Lord, it is fine for us to be here. If you wish, I will erect three tents here, one for you and one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
While Peter is speaking, a bright cloud covers them, and a voice from the cloud says: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved; listen to him.” At hearing the voice, the disciples fall on their faces. But Jesus says: “Get up and have no fear.” When they do, they see no one except Jesus.
On their way down the mountain the next day, Jesus commands: “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of man is raised up from the dead.” Elijah’s appearance in the vision raises a question in the disciples’ minds. “Why,” they ask, “do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?”
“Elijah has already come,” says Jesus, “and they did not recognize him.” Jesus, however, is speaking about John the Baptizer, who fulfilled a role similar to Elijah’s. John prepared the way for Christ, as Elijah did for Elisha.
How strengthening this vision proves to be, both to Jesus and to the disciples! The vision is, as it were, a preview of Christ’s Kingdom glory. The disciples saw, in effect, “the Son of man coming in his kingdom,” just as Jesus had promised a week earlier. After Jesus’ death, Peter wrote about their having ‘become eyewitnesses of Christ’s magnificence while they were with him in the holy mountain.’
The Pharisees had demanded from Jesus a sign to prove that he was the one promised in the Scriptures to be God’s chosen King. They were given no such sign. On the other hand, Jesus’ intimate disciples are permitted to see Jesus’ transfiguration as confirmation of the Kingdom prophecies. Thus, Peter later wrote: “Consequently we have the prophetic word made more sure.” Matthew 16:13, 28–17:13; Mark 9:1-13; Luke 9:27-37; 2 Peter 1:16-19.
No, the kingdom of God came in power on the day of Pentecost.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Act 28:31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Obviously not. Why would they die AFTER the world has ended?
...but sure enough they did see visions of God coming kingdom, starting with, can you say ';Mark 9:2';, the very next scripture?
Mark 9:2
2After six days Jesus took Peter, James and John with him and led them up a high mountain, where they were all alone. There he was transfigured before them. 3His clothes became dazzling white, whiter than anyone in the world could bleach them. 4And there appeared before them Elijah and Moses, who were talking with Jesus.
Also remember that John saw visions in the Book of Revelations.
And when Jesus was Crucified and Rose from the Dead they witnessed the Kingdom of God come to power.
Mark 15:39 And when the centurion, who stood facing him, saw that he thus breathed his last, he said, ';Truly this man was the Son of God!';
Mark 16:19 So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.
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' kingdom of God come with power. '
refers to the rapture.
therefore, what DEATH is Jesus referring to .. is the Q.
i see it as the wicked will die then REINCARNATE.
when the rapture happens, the reincarnated wicked will be around. THEN their death will be ...
permanent, eternal.
so the phrase .. will not taste death ... bc it is not permanent ... yet.
kingdom of God does not mean end of the world. i believe it was in referene to jeses dying and people receiving salvation.
and then there were two people (i think... can't remember who) and they didn't even die. they just ascended to heaven. :)
That scripture can be interpreted two ways. Some believe it is in reference to the transfiguration, some believe it's a reference to the post-resurrection church which some did participate in as per Acts.
Or your interpretation is incorrect .. let me ask u a silly question ..are you even a christian??
If you aren't let me suggest there is a lot more scripture to explain why you aren't getting it when it comes to understanding gods word
Jesus' primary message was that the world was about to end and people should repent before that happens. Obviously, he was wrong.
No that is not what Jesus was saying. This is what happens when you take verses out of context. The Kingdon Of God was not the end of the world.
Some fundies argue that some of those people standing there must still be alive today, because the kingdom of God has not yet come with power. It's a testament to their powers of rationalization.
You are not very informed about Bible stories. He was referring to the transfiguration which happened in the next few verses.
No. Jesus was speaking of the judgment to fall on Jerusalem, not the end of the world.
I asked a question on this theme, but Christians say that this passage refers to the return of Jesus at Pentecost and not the End of Time.
lol. so essentially you 'Think' that is what The Living Word says? (Jesus IS The Living Word). ';You'; take ';Him'; out of context everytime because 'you' don't know Him.
or another obvious conclusion is more true!
people come to false conclusions and teach them as facts and truth
There is much conflict in the words of the Bible. This shows that anyone claiming that every word is true is an idiot.
If my memory serves me correctly, that verse immediately precedes the Transfiguration.
He was referring to the near far farther future.
Wrong, and you know it. John the Beloved was translated.
Don't you just hate loopholes?
or maybe the fact that Jesus had a heartbeat.
It's against the Jewish law to worship a human.
I agree with Buddy R
stfu you stupid atheist
